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08-07-2023 08:30 AM
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content There seems to be several terms used to describe measurements in units of feet.
Is the "matching" chart below correct with respect to Int'l vs. U.S.?
"Imperial is the one that confuses me the most, because i read that the U.S. is the only country still using it. If so, why do we also have US Feet?
Thanks,
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by AyanPalit
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08-07-2023 07:19 PM
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content The following table should help:
International foot US survey foot Imperial foot US foot Foot Survey foot
Note that,ArcGIS Pro didn’t differentiate between the two distinct foot definitions previously and this was updated in ArcGIS Pro 3.0.
As in the NOAA publication referenced:
"U.S. survey foot is retired and replaced byinternational foot."
"From this point forward, surveyors will refer to the international foot as simply the foot."
Ayan Palit | Principal Consultant Esri
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by AndrewLeason
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08-08-2023 10:23 AM
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content Those terms have been in ArcGIS for years. However, if we now remove them then data that people have been using in those units will suddenly stop working, which would be a problem for a lot of users.
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by AndrewLeason
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08-07-2023 08:46 AM
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content Craig,
The difference between International and US Survey Feet is that the international foot is defined as 0.3048 meters, whereas the US survey foot is 1200/3937 meters (or 0.30480061). However, earlier this year Congress retired the US survey foot as a unit of measure.
I hope this helps, Andrew.
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content Thanks for that info, but now I guess I have even more questions
If US Foot and Survey Foot are the same, then US Foot is being retired, as well?
And, what about my Imperial question?
by AyanPalit
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08-07-2023 08:51 AM
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content @Craig_Eissler_Iceman Great question! Looks like you have screenshots from ArcGIS documentation - always helpful if you include the reference link.
Anyway, if your focus is Feet, there are just two:
1 International foot = 0.3048 meters
1 US survey foot = 0.3048006096 meters
The two federal agencies, National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) retired use of the “U.S. survey foot” on December 31, 2022.
Reference: https://www.noaa.gov/stories/thinking-on-our-feet-december-31-marks-end-of-us-survey-foot
US survey units are based on imperial units (British) and sometimes used interchangeably. As noted above there may be a slight difference between specificUS survey units and its corresponding imperial units.
Reference:https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/latest/help/editing/distance-formats-for-editing.htm
Ayan Palit | Principal Consultant Esri
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content Yes, but what about answering my question with the different results using the same unit of measure?
by AyanPalit
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08-07-2023 09:12 AM
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content @Craig_Eissler_Iceman It will help if you provide specific links, tools and version of ArcGIS Probeing used.
Note that,ArcGIS Pro didn’t differentiate between the two distinct foot definitions previously and this was updated in ArcGIS Pro 3.0.
Ayan Palit | Principal Consultant Esri
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content I am NOT using two different units of measure. Both are being calculated using NAD83 State Plane, Texas Central, Feet.
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content Perhaps you should actually 'post' that question...
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Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content I did in another Post, but the person replying brought it to this Post, so then things got tangled up.
Mark as New Bookmark Subscribe Mute Subscribe to RSS Feed Permalink Print Report Inappropriate Content And, there are not just 2 "terms", there are 5 -- and I am attempting to associate them with the 2 you mention. ...All of the terms below are used in ArcGIS, so it's confusing which are synonymous.
International Foot
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